They have contrasting personalities and are at opposite ends of the experience scale. But one thing unites all managers - poor results bring about pressure.

Both Glenn and Terry suffered shock Worthington Cup exits this week and some say defeat on Sunday could be fatal. Fans of West Ham and Leeds United are quite happy to blame everything wrong at their clubs on the two men in the hot seat.

They know each other well - Roeder was Venables' skipper at QPR in the 1980s - but how will Iron Glenn and Ell Tel react facing each other in TheFA.com match-up of the weekend.

GLENN ROEDER (Manager, West Ham) v
TERRY VENABLES (Manager, Leeds United)

KNOWN FOR...

Roeder: Gazza's best mate in football, Signing Kevin Phillips from Baldock, Verbal volleys from Di Canio

Venables: Doesn't like Sugar, Euro 96 supertactician, ITV punditry, Binning Batty

HIGH

Roeder: Shut up last season's boo-boys by taking West Ham to seventh in the Premiership

Venables: Was the centrepoint of a magical summer in 1996 when England reached the European Championship semi-finals

LOW

Roeder: Branded "disgusting" by former West Ham manager Harry Redknapp in a verbal spat about Harry's signings for the club

Venables: Late Iranian goal prevents Tel's Australia reaching the World Cup

CURRENT FORM

Roeder: Dismal. Football phone-in shows dominated by how he should be sacked. Nice-guy Roeder has seen his not-so-happy Hammers lose their last three without scoring a goal, Wednesday night's home defeat against Oldham particularly damaging.

Venables: Dismal. Football phone-in shows dominated by how he should be sacked. Chirpy-chappy Venables has seen his lacklustre Leeds team fail to win any of their last seven domestic games, Wednesday night's defeat at Sheffield United particularly damaging

WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT THEMSELVES

Roeder: "I can't think of anything else I'd rather be doing. I wasn't considered good enough to play for West Ham, to be here now is a real pleasure."

Venables: "I honestly felt I'd had enough of management after Middlesbrough which is why I was concentrating more on other aspects of my life."

HISTORY

Roeder: EastEnder who started his schoolboy career in the field opposite to West Ham's training ground where he now puts Cole, Carrick and Di Canio through their paces. Made his name at Orient and QPR before joining Newcastle in 1982, captaining them for most of the five and half years he was in the north-east; befriending a young chap called Paul Gascoigne along the way.

As a manager, Roeder had to sell to survive at Watford; it eventually got him the sack but Glenn Hoddle took him on as part of his England coaching team. He then went to West Ham and worked so well with youngsters like Joe Cole, they offered him the manager's job to succeed Harry Redknapp. A disastrous start was rectified last season and The Hammers finished seventh. However this term has been disappointing and defeat at Liverpool last weekend left them fourth-from-bottom. And then came Oldham on Wednesday night.

Venables: More seems to happen to Tel every year than most people experience in a lifetime. The first player to represent England at every level, he was part of Chelsea's Swinging Sixties team and helped Spurs win the FA Cup.

His first managerial job at Crystal Palace saw them dubbed 'The Team of Eighties' but he left just a few months into the new decade, taking QPR to the 1982 FA Cup Final. His next job was a quantum leap - Barcelona - where he sold Diego Maradona, replaced him with Steve Archibald and won the Spanish title and reached the European Cup final, which they lost on penalties to Steua Bucharest on home soil. Became manager of Spurs, signed Gazza and Gary Lineker but fell out with chairman Alan Sugar when he became more than a manager. They ended up in court and it would be a decade before Tel returned to the top flight of English football.

In the meantime, he helped England to the semi-finals of Euro 96 and then worked for Australia, Portsmouth and Crystal Palace with diminishing returns of success. Seemed happy as an ITV pundit when Middlesbrough asked him to save them from relegation - which he did. Now, in charge of Leeds but the natives are already getting restless.

COMPARISON

"Glenn went to the 1998 World Cup with England. He has been around that scene and knows what is expected. I rate him highly." West Ham midfielder Joe Cole

"Terry knows that I think with his qualities he should have won more trophies" Best pal and former Arsenal manager George Graham

Compiled by Joe Bernstein

· West Ham play Leeds in the Premiership at Upton Park on Sunday November 10